What Can I Do You For?

A reader asks to know the difference between “What can I do for you?” and “What can I do you for?”
“What can I do for you?” is the usual expression, a polite inquiry meaning, “How may I help you?” The reversal, “What can I do you for,” is a joke.
Common meanings of the verb “to do” are “to carry out, achieve, bring to pass, to perform, to render, administer, pay, extend, exhibit, show (justice, worship, thanks, etc.) to a person abstract entity.” Here are some examples of its use:
He does as much work as three men.
Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country.
He asked what he could do to prove his innocence.
They were doing you a favor by offering you that car.
Some say Helene Weigel did most of the work, while Brecht got all the glory.
Just saying the Ben Kingsley Silas Marner movie is “good” doesn’t do it justice; it’s superb.
“What can I do you for,” first appears on the Ngram Viewer in the 1980s. The joke is that in the vocabulary of the criminally minded, “do” is a stand-in verb for various unpleasant acts:
You’d better watch your back, because I’m going to do for you.
See that hick over there? I’m going to do him for at least twenty bucks.
And then there is the delightful scene in My Fair Lady when Eliza is still in the early stages of her linguistic transformation. Here’s a shortened version:
Eliza Doolittle: My aunt died of influenza, or so they said. But it’s my belief they done the old woman in.
Mrs. Higgins: Done her in?
Eliza Doolittle: And what become of her new straw hat that should have come to me? Somebody pinched it. And what I say is: them as pinched it, done her in.
Lord Boxington: Done her in? Done her in, did you say?
Lady Boxington: What ever does it mean?
Mrs. Higgins: It’s the new slang, meaning someone has killed her.
Because of the negative possibilities of “do,” the expression “What can I do you for?” suggests that the speaker is asking how he might take advantage of you. In practice, the people who say it usually intend it as a pleasantry.
ESL speakers need to be aware that “What can I do you for?” is a joke. The correct expression to use when offering to help someone is, “What can I do for you?”

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Group discussion skills

Group discussions occur in many different formats – from very informal ones between friends to highly structured and challenging discussions included as part of a selection process.

In both cases, there are a number of specific skills that we can help our students develop to become better able to contribute effectively to group discussions.

  • Why teach group discussion skills?
  • Types of discussion
  • Useful sub-skills for students
  • Setting up group discussions
  • Giving and encouraging feedback
  • Conclusion

 

Why teach group discussion skills?
Developing group discussion skills is useful for everyday life as we regularly find ourselves having discussions amongst friends, family and colleagues. These may vary from very informal chats about day-to-day things, to more serious topics, for example a discussion about a recent news story or a problem that needs to be solved.

  • Additionally, group discussions are increasingly being used in the job market during interviews and selection procedures. These can take a variety of formats, but the key skills remain very similar.
  • Last but not least, group discussions offer an opportunity for extended speaking (and listening!) practice by all of the contributors. Group discussion practice and skill development is therefore useful for all students.

 

Types of discussion
There are a variety of different types of discussions that occur naturally and which we can recreate in the classroom. These include discussions where the participants have to:

  • Make decisions (e.g. decide who to invite to a party and where to seat them)
  • Give and / or share their opinions on a given topic (e.g. discussing beliefs about the effectiveness of capital punishment)
  • Create something (e.g. plan and make a poster as a medium for feedback on a language course)
  • Solve a problem (e.g. discussing the situations behind a series of logic problems)

 

Some discussion topics may fall into more than one of these categories, but it is useful to consider a variety of formats to which the students can apply the skills they are learning.


Useful sub-skills for students
There are a number of different sub-skills which students will need to be able to successfully and effectively participate in a group discussion. Students need to develop the ability to:

Analyse
This skill can be developed by giving students the topic individually and asking them to brainstorm or mind-map all of the possible sub-topics they could speak about. The students can then swap their notes and assess or analyse the relevance of each of the sub-topics their partner has included. Together, the students then draw up a fresh list or mind-map and discuss how the sub-topics might be linked together, along with examples or reasons for any arguments they might have.

Persuade
This skill comes in useful when students need to make decisions on how to do something (e.g. which candidate should get a job). A fun activity to develop this skill is to give groups of students this topic and ask them to decide on the profile of the perfect candidate, creating a list of 7 adjectives. The students are then re-grouped and asked to persuade the other members of the group that their selection is the best while compiling a second, negotiated list. The group members who retain the most from their original lists are the winners. Note down useful phrases that you hear the students using while doing this task and discuss these at the end for future reference.

Control emotions
This can be practised by giving the students a fairly controversial topic, such as ‘Friends are more important than family’ and asking the students to decide whether they agree, disagree or have no opinion, making notes on their main arguments to support their viewpoint. Divide the students into groups ensuring that there is a mix of views within each group. Explain that for this discussion, the aim is to keep their voices low and try to control their emotions as far as possible. Monitor and give feedback on these areas.

Support
One of the most important things for this skill is for students to learn when it is and isn’t appropriate to interrupt and how to do it. Very often students will talk over each other in an effort to get their point across and forget to listen.

To practise this, you can get your students to make a list in small groups of when it is and isn’t appropriate to interrupt other speakers. They should include things like ‘not appropriate during the middle of a point, if the speaker has not said very much previously, or when you are feeling angry and liable to say something you’ll regret’. It is appropriate when the speaker has been dominating the discussion for too long, what the speaker is saying is completely irrelevant to the topic, or you don’t understand the point he / she has made’.

You can then give them or elicit a list of phrases which they might use to interrupt politely (e.g. ‘Can i just add something here?’, ‘Sorry I’d just like to clarify something,’ etc.) The students then write five of these on slips of paper (one per slip) and have a group discussion on a given topic. The aim is to use all of the language on their slips. When they have used a phrase, they put the slip in the middle of the table. The other students in the group judge whether the interruption was appropriate / polite. If not, they take the slip back and try again.

Use functional language
Depending on the types of group discussions that you plan to do with your class, it is useful to draw up a list of useful functional language for the students to refer to. This could include phrases for functions such as ‘Giving reasons’, ‘Giving your opinion’, ‘Agreeing and disagreeing’, etc. You can either make up the list yourself and distribute it or get the students to do this. For each group discussion, you can then refer them to the appropriate section of the list and give them a few moments to consider the language before beginning the discussion.

Setting up group discussions
There are several key things to consider when setting up group discussions in the classroom to ensure that they run successfully.

  • Give the students some planning time either individually or in small groups. Don’t just give them the topic and say ‘go’! It is often useful to discuss some associated vocabulary or functional language that they might find useful
  • Choose topics which you are confident your students will find interesting.
  • Get them to brainstorm some ideas for discussions they would like to do and use this as a starting point
  • Ensure a balance between input and practice
  • Use a variety of styles / types
  • Vary group size and procedure
    Some companies do selection group discussions with very large groups of people – over ten in some cases. If your students will be facing these types of group discussions in the future make sure they get some practice doing them. It can also be useful to mix classes of students so they have practice doing discussions with people they don’t already know.
  • Encourage group discussions outside class time
    Give students some extra feedback forms to use to give each other input on how they perform in group discussions outside of class.

 

Giving and encouraging feedback
Feedback can take several forms and it is a good idea to vary the way it is given. Students can observe each other doing group discussions and give each other feedback on the specific areas of input that you have covered (ideally using a feedback form that you have created).

  • Additionally, students can do a ‘Reflective group feedback exercise’ where at the end of the group discussion they discuss how effective each of the participants was during the discussion. Again, giving them some focused questions to guide this stage will help them.
  • You could also try video-taping the group discussions and playing sections of these back to the class to analyse. Some students find this extremely useful.
  • Finally, monitor the groups yourself and make notes for feedback on whole groups or individual performances. Keeping a record of these will help you and the students to see where they have improved.

 

Conclusion
As we have seen, group discussions can take a variety of formats and are useful for all types of students. They can be done in preparation for job interviews or as extended speaking practice simply to increase fluency.
It is important to consider the different sub-skills that are involved in participating in a group discussion and ensure that you do activities that address each of these. Additionally, structuring and varying the way that feedback is given will help the students to identify areas for improvement.

Six Shades of True

Our word true is one of the oldest in the language. It may derive from a Proto-Indo-European word for tree. A well-rooted tree is strong, steadfast and firm. By the time the word entered Old English as triewe, it had acquired the meaning “faithful” or “trustworthy.”

New connotations continued to attach to true. The sense “consistent with fact” dates from about 1200. The meaning “real, genuine, not counterfeit” is from late 14th century. About 1550 it took on the sense of “agreeing with a certain standard,” and by late 1500s it could mean “accurately fitted or shaped.”

In modern usage, true has at least six shades of meaning.

Here are some examples from the web, together with a few synonyms that might convey the intended meaning more precisely.

1. Is it true what they say about the ‘Moto G’?
Meaning: correct, accurate, right, verifiable, well-documented, factual

2. This is why, with true musicianship in mind, I rarely touch the piano in my classroom.
Meaning: genuine, authentic, real, actual

3. An Australian forklift driver who some historians argued was the true heir to the British throne has died in the small New South Wales town he called home.
Meaning: rightful, legitimate, legal, lawful, authorized

4. A true friend…has your very best interests at heart.
Meaning: loyal, faithful, constant, devoted, staunch trustworthy, reliable, dependable

5. The costume historian views the history of clothing as a true reflection of culture…
Meaning: accurate, true to life, faithful, factual, realistic

6. True repentance is always characterized by at least three things…
Meaning: sincere, genuine, real, unfeigned, heartfelt

Then again, true might be exactly the word you want.

Here are some idioms that contain the word true:

true as steel: loyal and dependable
true colors: personality traits often concealed by one’s day-to-day behavior
true love: love that does not alter when it alteration finds
ring true: to sound likely (like the intended tone of a bell that has been cast properly)
tried and true: worthy of trust because of previous dependability
true up: straighten something
true to form: according to pattern or previous behavior
true-blue: totally dependable at all times.

The Many Uses of “Best”

Besides its use as a simple adjective meaning, “of the highest excellence, excelling all others in quality,” the word best serves as other parts of speech and occurs in many English idioms.

As a verb, to best means to get the better of, get an advantage over, outdo; to outreach, outwit, circumvent. “Jack’s wife always bests him at bridge.”

Best can be a noun. “Marilyn wanted nothing but the best for herself and her family.”

As an adverb best modifies a verb. “All the boys are good at drawing faces, but James does it best.”

Here are several common idioms that make use of the word best. The list is by no means exhaustive.

best man: the chief male attendant who stands up for the groom at a wedding. With the advent of same-sex marriage, the term is beginning to lose its gendered meaning.

the best people: people considered better than most, either because they come from old, established families, or because they possess superior moral qualities. “The best people possess a feeling for beauty, the courage to take risks, the discipline to tell the truth, the capacity for sacrifice.” –Ernest Hemingway

best boy: the principal assistant to the chief electrician in a film crew

best seller: what every writer wants to have or to be. The term usually applies to a book or other product, but sometimes it stands for a best-selling author. (Yes, best-selling takes a hyphen.)

second best: next in quality to the first. No one wants to be “second best,” but whether or not it’s a bad thing depends upon who or what is “first best.” For example, in the Forbes list of the richest people in the U.S., Warren Buffett is “second best.” His net worth of a mere $58 billion puts him in second place after Bill Gates. Gates has $72 billion.

to do one’s best and to give it one’s best shot: both expressions mean “to do something to the best of one’s ability,” but they have differing connotations:

“I always try to do my best.” (applicable to any situation)
“I may not have time to pick up the laundry, but I’ll do my best.” (implies that the effort may be futile)
“Everyone else in the contest has more experience, but I’ll give it my best shot.” (the odds of failure are greater than those of success.)

to make the best of it: adjust to a bad situation. “The tornado destroyed our house, but we’ll make the best of it.”

for the best: better than it seems or seemed at the moment. “His bride left him at the altar, but it was for the best because he met and married someone better.”

the best of both worlds: a situation in which you can enjoy two very different things at the same time. “Nina Dobev, who portrays both human Elena and her doppelganger, former vampire Katherine in [ The Vampire Diaries] – said she gets the best of both worlds.”

Some “best” expressions are hyphenated:
best-built
best-aimed
best-bred
best-dressed
best-kept
best-laid
best-managed
best-meaning
best-meant
best-preserved
best-intentioned
best-natured
best-tempered.